2014 Aug 18th

NECESSARY to have Residential Structures as High at 15 to 16 stories in Hoboken???

I received an email from the developers of the proposed high-rise rental building at 1300 Jefferson Street.  They are again going before the city to request a zoning variance in order to build higher than the permitted 6 stories.
According to their own letter, buildings of 15 or 16 stories are “not particularly an issue on these blocks on the very edge of town”.  Not particularly an issue?  Says whom?  Where does one even begin to take issue with that statement?  Do the people who own homes at the Upper Grand have an issue with it?  I would bet most do.  Do people living in Hoboken who drive in rush hour traffic have an issue?  What about those who use the sewer system?  I could go on but you can see for yourself the mind-boggling disregard for the effect this sort of development has on the surrounding community in their own words below.  Why, one might ask, is it “necessary” to build as high at 16 stories for Hoboken to have a bowling alley or other recreational facilities?  Do they mean to say that in order for us to maximize our profit in the project, if we tell you we will give you any recreational space, you must give us an extra 10 stories of apartments to rent???  Doesn’t one typically pay to go bowling or rock climb?  So these recreational facilities are not some kind of gift to the neighborhood.  They are to be for-profit businesses which should stand on their own, no?  Will they be built when the similarly promised tennis courts and swimming pools other developers told Hoboken we would be getting are finished?  Oh, wait, that never actually happened.  Do we want more rental units this large?  Or do developers prefer to build rentals to condos because they get their financing more easily, take their profits quicker and out?  Just some things to think about.
Hello All,
Just a reminder that if you haven’t already completed the City’s survey for the Western Edge Redevelopment Zone, tomorrow is the closing date.  For all of you that want to see more indoor recreational venues in Hoboken, please complete the survey at http://fluidsurveys.com/surveys/darlene-2/western-edge/ .  Note you will have to write in request for bowling and rock climbing.  Also note that in order to devote as much area of a block to low rise areas like these indoor activities, it will be necessary to have residential structures as high as 15 to 16 stories, not particularly an issue on these blocks on the very edge  of town.   Finally, please remember that Wednesday, August 20th is the date for the public hearing on the direction of the redevelopment plan for this Zone.  The City takes very seriously the feedback from the community and if you want your voice to be heard, and your interests to be represented, please attend the meeting:
Wednesday, August 20, 2014, 6:30pm – 8:30pm
Multi Service Center conference room
124 Grand Street, Hoboken, NJ
We hope to see you all there!
Best regards,
Hany Ahmed and Mark L Villamar
So yes, as they say, please attend the meeting and let the City (the developers don’t even realize we are a City, not a town) know how you feel about it.
  1. Craig

    Hoboken is already the 4th most densely populated incorporated place in the US (6th most densely populated if you include unincorporated statistical areas like Manhattan). I guess the developers won’t be happy until we hit #1.

    Union City is about the same land area as Hoboken and has about 15,000 more people right now. I think that’s about the limits of the future population Hoboken can handle. Don’t forget that hundreds of units of housing are also in planning to go up along Observer Hwy. I don’t think the infrastructure can handle all that on the southern border in addition to the monstrosities these guys want to build on the north end of town. There has to be a point where enough is enough.

  2. Lori

    I think people are failing to focus on the difference between adding hundreds and hundreds of rental units versus condo units, too. That will have a significant effect on the fabric of our community for a very long time.

  3. mark

    Hello Lori, i think you are mistaken on a number of grounds; if you would like to discuss this project send me an email and a good time to call and we can talk.

  4. Lori Turoff

    You are welcome to comment here any time.

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